Hawk Talk: Tate, Baldwin in different positions

Feb 19, 2014, 2:38 PM | Updated: 2:46 pm

Tate-Baldwin-644
Wide receivers Golden Tate (unrestricted) and Doug Baldwin (restricted) are both set to become free agents. (AP)

By Brady Henderson

Neither Golden Tate nor Doug Baldwin are under contract for next season, but the Seahawks receivers are in completely different positions as free agency approaches. Tate is unrestricted while Baldwin is restricted, a distinction that Danny O’Neil noted and explained during the latest edition of “Hawk Talk”. The entire transcript can be found here. Highlights are below.

Paco-POA asked whether it would be cheaper to re-sign Baldwin over Tate and wondered if that should be the bigger priority.

O’Neil: I don’t disagree with that sentiment. I think that there are logistical difficulties there. Here’s what I mean by that: Golden Tate is an unrestricted free agent, which means he’s going to get an open-market offer. It means that he’ll be able to see whether Seattle values him as much as other teams in the league and measure the difference. There’s a greater chance that Tate would leave. There’s also a chance that he will see that Seattle’s offer is equal to what other teams are offering. For Baldwin, there’s less chance he leaves. But if he and the Seahawks can’t agree on contract terms, the open market won’t necessarily be able to bridge that gap. Baldwin won’t be unrestricted, and any offer he receives from another team will be tempered because there’s additional compensation that will go to Seattle. Baldwin would feel (rightly) that the other team’s offer isn’t a true reflection of what his open-market value would be.

odel asked if the Seahawks would consider drafting Odell Beckham Jr., a receiver from LSU, if they don’t retain Tate.

O’Neil: Odell Beckham Jr. getting some love. Here are a couple of things I know: Seattle was very interested in Jahvid Best when he came out. Ditto for Tavon Austin before he blew up the combine last year. What that says to me is that Seattle’s preference for size at wide receiver/running back can be trumped when it perceives exceptional speed.

Nate asked whether the Seahawks might cut or restructure the contracts of defensive ends Chris Clemons or Red Bryant for salary-cap relief.

O’Neil: Two different players, two different questions. If I had to project – and that’s certainly what it would be at this point, projecting – I would guess that there’s a much higher likelihood that Clemons’ contract would be changed this offseason. And don’t use “restructured” as a term there. Restructuring is what someone like Larry Fitzgerald does, and it refers to a situation where the players’ monetary compensation doesn’t change so much as the timeline for how it’s paid out. Clemons’ deal wouldn’t be restructured if Seattle revisits it. It would be changed.

shmitty asked if it would be cheaper to sign kicker Steven Hauschka to a multi-year deal rather than use the franchise tag on him.

O’Neil: Depends on what Hauschka wants long-term. If it was cheaper to sign him to a deal than franchise him, they would do that. Challenge is the longer-term commitment to a kicker when every bit of statistical evidence shows that the performance of kickers is so variable as to make multi-year commitments at higher dollar figures problematic. See: Mare, Olindo.

Greg asked when the Seahawks and free safety Earl Thomas will reach a new deal.

O’Neil: Well, I wouldn’t expect any contract extensions to come before June. There’s no timetable for them to get done earlier. No urgency. For the player, he wants to eliminate the risk of injury during the season. For the team, it wants to get the salaries in line.

Brock and Salk podcast

Brock and Salk

Seattle Kraken Oliver Bjorkstrand Ryan Donato...
Brent Stecker

Why are Kraken surging this season? What broadcaster Forslund sees

Kraken play-by-play announcer John Forslund joined Brock and Salk to talk about the differences between surging Seattle now and last season.
16 hours ago
Seahawks Tariq Woolen...
Brent Stecker

NFL Draft insider on why ’22 Seahawks class hit, possible ’23 targets

Seattle Sports' Brock and Salk caught up with ESPN NFL Draft analyst and insider Matt Miller to get his read on the Seahawks' rookies and what they could do in the 2023 draft.
16 hours ago
Seahawks Broncos Russell Wilson...
Brent Stecker

Just how high will Seahawks’ pick from Wilson trade to Broncos get?

Brandon Stokley, a former star NFL receiver and current Denver radio host, shares his thoughts on where the Seahawks' top pick coming from the Broncos will land.
2 days ago
UW Huskies Michael Penix Jr...
Brandon Gustafson

What does the future hold for UW Huskies QB Michael Penix Jr.?

Should star UW Huskies QB Michael Penix Jr. go pro or return to Washington in 2023? Brock Huard and Mike Salk have very different opinions.
3 days ago
Seahawks Pete Carroll...
Brandon Gustafson

Pete Carroll Show Takeaways: Areas where Seahawks must get better

Seahawks coach Pete Carroll broke down Seattle's OT loss to Vegas on Seattle Sports, including recent struggles at the line of scrimmage.
3 days ago
Seahawks Tre Brown...
Brandon Gustafson

Huard: What Tre Brown brings to the Seahawks’ cornerback room

Tre Brown, a 2021 fourth-round pick, could see his first action of 2022 for the Seahawks on Sunday against the Raiders following recovery from a knee injury.
5 days ago
Hawk Talk: Tate, Baldwin in different positions